Ask Nathan: A Peek at the 2024 Toyota Tacoma and Why No Honda EV (Yet) or Jeep Avenger?



Image: Toyota Media

Ask Nathan this week:

  • Is the 2023 Toyota Hilux teasing the 2024 Toyota Tacoma?
  • Why can’t I get a Honda EV?
  • Where is our Jeep Avenger?

The first question comes from a comment that the 2024 Toyota Tacoma may be related to the recent 2023 Toyota Hilux pickup.

Q: (A few selections from some YouTube comments) Is the 2024 Toyota Tacoma related to the 2023 Toyota Hilux?

  • “Again, the rest of the world gets a better midsize than us. 300 series 10 speed and 30mpg around town with no load.” – Art is lazy
  • “The 2024 Toyota Tacoma has nothing to do with the Toyota Tundra. No hybrid engine.” – Poutroll
  • RE: Toyota is holding off on the debut of the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. – Milos Fedor
  • “Since the new RX’s 6-speed transmission is for a front-drive platform, future Tacomas will not convert to the RWD ladder frame. O. Felix Obi

A: Not actually say it 2024 Toyota Tacoma is not Especially related to the new Hilux

These images are of the recently updated Toyota Hilux GR Sport. It’s based on the previous Hilux, so it’s closer to trim his update. (Image: Toyota Media)

…No, it’s not. Sure, they likely share some components and some styling cues, but they seem to be heading in different directions.

The US market has different demands and requirements that foreign models do not have to follow. This primarily concerns powertrain, emissions and safety. Combined with the “chicken tax”, it’s one of the reasons you can’t get another pickup truck. It’s kind of a shame.

North America should get its own midsize pickup, like the previous/current generation Tacoma.

Here’s what Tea Leaf looks like to show in the 2024 (or 2025?) Toyota Tacoma.

Toyota New Global Architecture – F (TNGA-F) is a modular platform that supports body-on-frame full- and mid-size pickup trucks. This platform can support wheelbases from 112.2 to 164.6 inches.

Recently, Toyota’s top management revealed something. no diesel I am coming to the United States. Diesels in midsize pickup trucks in the United States were not popular. The only midsize diesels sold in recent times, the Colorado and Canyon, have been ditched in favor of turbogas engines.

Toyota Hilux interior (Image: Toyota Media)

“Toyota is already producing and selling a 2.4L turbocharged 4-cylinder engine for the 2023 Toyota Highlander SUV. 265 hp When 309 lb-ft of torque. In the Tacoma pickup truck, this engine could be tuned differently with a little extra horsepower and torque. The Highlander Turbo is rated at 24 MPG, and we expect the Tacoma Turbo to approach this level of efficiency as well.

Then there is the Toyota Hybrid Max power plant. Combine a 2.4L turbo engine with one or more electric motors for more power and efficiency. For example, the total power output of his new 2023 Toyota Crown Hybrid Max 2.4L gas/electric hybrid is 340 hp When 400.4 lb-ft of torque. The Crown is mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission instead of a CVT. ”

TFL track

Additionally, an insider suggested Toyota may follow Ford (and, to a lesser extent, Nissan) in using a variant of its full-size truck transmission in the midsize. It may be adopted for Toyota Tacoma. The chances of seeing a manual transmission are pretty low.

It’s also safe to assume that the new Tacoma will also get some variation on the Tundra’s infotainment system and interior design.

In short, I don’t think the new Hilux will be used in the next Tacoma.

– No


The next question comes from a viewer who wants to know why he can’t get Honda’s EV.

Q: Europe has a nice little Honda E, but we don’t. why?

It will sell out in seconds.

–Hill J

A: Well, there are some moves by Honda on electrification, but that’s not what you want.

Image: Sony

Honda has said in the past that the Honda E is not made for North America. This could be related to DOT requirements, or projected ROI. Besides, they are working with several partners on various electric platforms. We don’t have a lot of solid information about this collaboration, especially since there are minor concerns around battery capacity, range, power and price, which should hit the market around 2025. You can learn a little more about Afeela (here).

Honda Prologue Image: Honda

As for the other partnership, that one with General Motors seems to say more. The upcoming Honda Prologue is the first model in a series of electrified Honda products for North America. There is much more to learn (here).

“Honda will make the next EV under Prologue will certainly be produced in North America. These vehicles will ride Honda’s “e:Architecture” and will almost certainly leverage the company’s joint venture with LG Energy Solution on a new lithium-ion battery plant. The two companies announced their partnership in late August, though exact details are still pending regulatory approval. ”

TFL car

Coming back to the Honda E, if vehicles like the Mini Cooper EV and Chevrolet Volt are any indication, small EVs aren’t in vogue here.

– No


A final question comes from a reader wondering why the electric Jeep Avenger is not available here.

2023 Jeep Avenger - Europe Only

Q: (ask@TFLcar.com): Why can’t I get Jeep’s new small EV?

sorrow. I don’t understand why he can’t launch the Jeep Avenger in 2023. It makes no sense to me. It gets a nice range of 250 miles and looks very nice.

– Gigo JJ

A: I’m curious too…

There are a few things you should know. Jeep His Avenger was born as a front-wheel-drive (FWD)-only vehicle. No option for All Wheel Drive (AWD). Not for off-road adventures, for now. People in the US will never accept Jeep products that aren’t great for basic off-road driving.

then over there teeth The recently debuted Avenger 4X4 concept teeth For light off-road. It basically has a rear motor, plus beefier suspension settings and tires. Jeep isn’t confident in its performance numbers, but some speculate that it will make around 300 horsepower.

There is something else you should know. It now has a 54 kWh battery and has a range of 250 miles (WLTP). This equates to approximately 220 miles using the EPA metric.That’s before guessing the loss that a dual motor setup would bring to that battery. can Produces 156 horsepower.

That being said, it’s nice to see an AWD version of the Jeep Avenger coming to market soon. Rumor has it they may bring something else to our market based on the Avenger platform.

Let’s see!

– No


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